| Invoking a target (Ant 1.7) in a loop (Ant-Contrib) | Invoking a target (Ant 1.7) in a loop (Ant-Contrib) 2007-01-18 - By Steve Loughran
Rebo, Alex wrote:
>
> Indeed. O'Reilly's "Ant" is a good reference
> (except contrib, which was intentionally omitted; not clear "why", however;
> it deserved an "honorable mention" at least).
>
> And supplements manual (that tells a lot about the manual itself:
> if you need 300 extra pages to explain the subject maybe smth is missing
> from the original
> documentation).
1. I think the ORA book is fairly simplistic. I also find it suspicious
that the author didnt file any bugreps.
> But both fall short of providing a "logical path".
> Just by looking at the class name I can get a feeling of what I might expect
> that class to do.
> Most likely, I don't work with Ant long enough to "grow" such sense.
> That is what I'm expecting from a book.
> From the book "Smth in Action" (Ant in your case) I hope to get examples of
> non-trivial
> usage. Smth that only an expert can come up with. Look, for me, as for
> many-many others,
> Ant is an essential nuisance. My goal is to build application that works,
> not the tool that
> builds my application, leaving alone fighting that tool.
> After Ch. 5 (and that is what I've got so far) I do not have a feeling that
> resources are in my
> toolbox. And that is exactly the concern I tried to express.
OK.
One of the problems w/ a book is where do you stop. I do go into a lot
more detail in applied stuff later on -webapps, ant-contrib, ivy, java
ee, etc. then thereis about 80 pages on tasks. But the publishers get
frantic when a book about a build tool starts looking at 700 pages long.
Already I've had to pull all coverage on
-using xdoclet to create JSP taglibs
-using cargo to deploy
-xml logger
-the maven2 tasks as an alternative to ivy
-building and testing hibernate
If you look through the examples (I cut a source release for you on
http://sf.net/projects/antbook BTW) you can see the extra examples that
arent there.
After the book comes out, up on the web site will go the cut content; it
wont have production grade editing, but it will be there. I will see
about adding more on resources then, as we stabilise its use.
That's one of the problems with resources as they stand right now; they
are there but not widely used enough not only for me to talk about, but
to actually show best/worst practises. Nobody knows yet. It took ant's
<import> stuff a whole iteration to get fully understood, and we even
had to change the override policies to make it work properly. I do talk
about <import>. But resources, no, not yet.
-steve
-Steve
>> The only thing that does use it reliably appears to be <copy>, which is
>> where I look at it, in the context of working inside zip files.
> Copy is fine. And the example is good. It's the number of the examples that
> worries me.
> Different copies exploring different sides and types of resources. "Copy in
> Actions".
>
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